Sometimes I may disagree with Hitchens, but anyone dumb enough to cross swords with him deserves every punch in the mouth he delivers if they ain’t packing an honest counter. This Hooper dude was just left flailing around; propping up dumbassed strawmen, and holding up frivolous pieces of paper that could have read “AUTO AUCTION” for I could tell (note to CAIR: “you need a better prop department”).
And then Dennis Prager piled on.
(I’m kind of perplexed by Prager; he seems to draw enormous amounts of heat from the Lefties, but the times I’ve seen him on shows like this (as far as I know, his radio show ain’t available in my parts), and when I’ve read his stuff available online, he comes off as a fairly temperate guy… he’s not a firebreather… why does he draw such vitriol?)
AllahPundit got the video goodness
Pace itself has been caught “nuancing” their association with CAIR:
“Pace University spokesman Chris Corey says the Council on American Islamic Relations had nothing to do with this:
Mr. Corey said university officials have not been contacted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations; however, the New York chapter released a statement commending the New York Police Department “for its appropriate handling of this case” and said the organization is working with the college’s Muslim Student Association and the Association of Muslim American Lawyers “to promote tolerance on the Pace campus.”
“Unfortunately for Mr. Corey, the internet doesn’t forget. He denies that CAIR contacted the university—but the Council on American Islamic Relations participated in a town hall meeting on the school campus about the incident, crowed about it in a press release, and pledged to continue pressuring the school.”
So now then, what do you think would happen if a bane to First Amendment existence like, say, that blowhard dude from the Catholic League, demanded anything from the Pace administration?
I believe their answer would be “shits and giggles.” At least until some True Believer from the Catholic League blew something, or someone, belonging to Pace itself up into the sky so high that it landed near the Brooklyn Bridge and their administration was brought to attention.
Then, Pace would give them an auditorium to spew their shit.
Sorta like when the Towers fell down and washed their death cloud across the Pace campus… The school’s admins got the message.
How DARE any educational institution have any contacts with CAIR?
This university MUST be locked and shuttered for this grievous crime against humanity.
TC: Hash, they DENIED having any contact with CAIR in this imbroglio. It’s a flatline lie.
“(I’m kind of perplexed by Prager; he seems to draw enormous amounts of heat from the Lefties, but the times I’ve seen him on shows like this (as far as I know, his radio show ain’t available in my parts), and when I’ve read his stuff available online, he comes off as a fairly temperate guy…”
Oh? Really?
Nice cutoff. Don’t let that little shit like “full content” or “in place context” get in your way.
You have NEVER been able to defend you damn-near trollish shit with backup. You just state facts that you pull from your ass, or imply things without anything justifying your position.
Really, c’mon, hash. You’re too old to be that big a dick. Talk your heart, but don’t try making your emo be reality.
You’re the one that quotes fear-mongering and propaganda from Hot Air and Allahpundit and seriously expects anyone to take you at face value.
TC: Where’d that happen in this, or any other post I’ve thrown up? Linking alone don’t count; where’d I say “YOWZA! DAT’S WHERE MY BRAIN’S AT.” Hell, I’ve told Malkin to fuck off right here in my archives if you’d spend a moment looking around.
Hash: And when you decide to get “creative”, and start holding seances with the muse?
“Sorta like when the Towers fell down and washed their death cloud across the Pace campus… The school’s admins got the message.”
Do I hear the mournful tolling of bells?
TC: Dude, I write for a living. I can’t help it if I’m lyrical when I do it.
Hash: For Christ’s sake, get hold of yourself. There are no “Islamofascists” lurking behind the curtains.
TC: You’re right; they are right before the walls.
A perfect “for-instance” was when you demanded a source for the Bush Crime Family’s executive order (as if I were a journalism student), and for a change, I decided to “comply”.
There was no further mention of it, or the post.
OF COURSE NOT!
You didn’t want to draw attention to THAT little nugget of information.
[TC: refresh my memory. Since there is a search box atop this page, and you couldn't point me at your effort to "comply," (and I really don't give a shit about most of this unless I'm looking at it) I truly have no idea what you are getting at.
BTW: I did find a credible source that put Tillman in Iraq; it also told me the idea that his own men fragged him on orders from BushCheneyHilterCo kinda in a dustbin:
Doesn't sound like some "black-ops" guy could waltz in and deuce the guy... unless you believe EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF THE SQUAD WAS BLIND.
(see, I can do ALL CAPS too)]
“….damn-near trollish shit….”
Has it ever once occurred to you that it is YOU who have moved so far to the extreme right, that anyone with a lefty point of view is going to enrage you?
riight. I started this this whole shitride post and following thread by offering props to an avowed ANTI- “Religionist”; a man who adheres to a near-Marxist ideology, but agrees that “Yes, we shouldn’t take shit from these gits,” yet I have “moved to the right” when you have no fucking idea where I was on 9-10-01 (and a post or so ago I gave Kos kudos).
Yeah, I’m sure as shit some motherfucker of a wingnut… NOT.
“…but agrees that “Yes, we shouldn’t take shit from these gits,”…”
That’s exactly my point. You’re not giving anyone “props” when you simply go along with them out of simple hatred for their opponents in any given debate. It’s the most cynical form of tribute.
And it’s notable that only “those gits” are held to that particular level of scrutiny….everyone else gets a pass. Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
“…when you have no fucking idea where I was on 9-10-01…”
Utterly immaterial to the subject at hand. The statute of limitations on using the 9/11 occurrences to justify repudiating all rationality has long run out….
“…(and a post or so ago I gave Kos kudos)…”
Giving someone credit for profiting off a nascent political movement is faint praise at best.
“Yeah, I’m sure as shit some motherfucker of a wingnut… NOT.”
Dude? EVERY SINGLE POST, every single source toes the neocon line.
“TC: Hash, they DENIED having any contact with CAIR in this imbroglio. It’s a flatline lie.”
(Please stop inserting your follow-up comments into old ones from commenters. All this serves is to ensure that they do not show up in the comments bar on the right (and guarantees that they will not be seen or responded to. It’s just dishonest.)
And they may well have not. The school is not obligated to share every official contact on every incident that they have regarding school business.
What I got from reading the reports was that they had had prior contact with CAIR regarding the previous incidents, and what exactly is the big deal about that? Interest groups that purport to defend Muslim interests are not exactly permitted to thrive and flourish in the current environment and it would be natural and normal for the university to consult the one that was the most prominent and well-known, no?
[TC: "(Please stop inserting your follow-up comments into old ones from commenters. All this serves is to ensure that they do not show up in the comments bar on the right (and guarantees that they will not be seen or responded to. It's just dishonest.)"
Tuff titties. It's my bar; my whims and predacious predilictions have absolute moral authority.
Ergo, I do whatever the fuck I wanna do.]
“I did find a credible source that put Tillman in Iraq; it also told me the idea that his own men fragged him on orders from BushCheneyHilterCo kinda in a dustbin:”
That was from Version Number Two….the “friendly fire” tale the administration tried to float….
TC? Cover-ups in the military DO exist…..
You’re not getting that it’s the cover-ups that are the real issue.
“Hell, I’ve told Malkin to fuck off right here in my archives if you’d spend a moment looking around.”
Yeah, one time.
Also, wasn’t it you that asserted that you considered “Hot Air” to be Allahpundit’s baby, and not the shirt laundress herself?
“TC: refresh my memory. Since there is a search box atop this page, and you couldn’t point me at your effort to “comply,” (and I really don’t give a shit about most of this unless I’m looking at it) I truly have no idea what you are getting at.”
On 7/21/07, I mentioned Bush’s executive order targeting the money and property of dissidents, and you demanded its number. I provided it, quoted a portion of it, and then I heard the usual serenade of crickets.
Guess you must have been too busy.
#9: I LOL like a lolcat on a Caturday morning.
#10: Don’t be a dick and think you can make fucking rules that please you until you send me a check to help cover my bandwidth.
#11: No, that was pulled from the San Francisco Chronicle.
#12: “One time” was enough to get my point across. And the “shirt laundress” crap marks you a bigot hack who can’t argue facts, but has an MBA in the “politics of personal destruction.”
#13: If you know the date, why not gimme the link? This is a “Web 101″ question, hashfanatic; do you know how to do anything other than hit “say it”?
“#9: I LOL like a lolcat on a Caturday morning.”
Or a good soldier, locked into a tight corner?
“#10: Don’t be a dick and think you can make fucking rules that please you until you send me a check to help cover my bandwidth.”
Oh, I’m sorry. I’d been led to believe by your comments here and on “the “Tranquilizer” that finances were not a concern. I guess the best time to spray graffiti is to wait until the lights go out…
“#11: No, that was pulled from the San Francisco Chronicle.”
Reporting on the administration’s second revision of official events.
“And the “shirt laundress” crap marks you a bigot hack who can’t argue facts, but has an MBA in the “politics of personal destruction.””
Uh-huh. Like every single post of yours is brimming over with love, hope, and actual solutions for the problems of the Western World, prosperity for all, and the gorgeous mosaic of diversity that is this great nation.